Announcing the August Version Update! (07/18/2014)

[Karbuncle]

You should probably get used to Hard-mode battlefields, they're easy to pump out (look at FFXIV) so we're probably going to get a lot of them for the time being. They'll still be introducing more Skirmish(Crystal Tower) and Delve(Coil), but we're going to see a lot of Hard Mode battlefields.

Second, I can't even fathom them adjusting the value of JP gained from battle would require arduous amounts of development time. don't be silly.

[JSHidaka]

If they give JP as reward in every event, would make things more enjoyable.. Something like beating delve 1-3 JP depending on how NM killed

Skirmish. 0.25-1 per body tier or set tier.

Phantoms BCs. 1-3 depending on difficulty

[Draylo]

How exactly do you know they are releasing more Delve? Just curious.

[Karbuncle]

How exactly do you know they are releasing more Delve? Just curious.

I don't. I know they're releasing more Skirmish, Delve just came out of my mouth alongside it because they've had that kind of relationship so far (Using Skirmish to gear up for delve being their goal, so adding more skirmish... I assumed at this point)

[Sechs]

If they give JP as reward in every event, would make things more enjoyable.. Something like beating delve 1-3 JP depending on how NM killed

Every SoA event should give Capacity Points, at least. Would be nice to have small fixed amounts from old content as well (Voidwatch!) but I won't go that far. I'd be happy with all Reives, Assignments and all RoEs giving small amounts of CP. Emphasis on *small*. This is more a psychological aspect/motivational thing rather than a real efficient way of farming CP.

I also think they need to do something about Merits. As I mentioned several times it sucks that you cap 45 merits in the time you get like, what, 2,5 Job points?
"You can keep exping and get CP even if you have capped merits!". Yes I can, but it feels bad. Maybe it's just me being OCD about it but it annoys me.
I don't know what they could do about this. I'd say "reduce amount of exp you get from monsters" but that's clearly not happening.
Having a menu option that swaps XP and CP around would be too good, so that's not happening either.
Spending merits outside of MH wouldn't help either for several reasons.
Higher cap on merits would make the issue less relevant but still wouldn't solve it (would be better than nothing though)
Open up a menu that allows you to convert merits into JPs? Even at unfavourable rates, like... uhm, >10 merits for 1 JP? And enabling you to do the conversion outside of MH.
This could be a decent solution if they set the conversion rate high enough.
It would kinda break their "farm JPs on the job itself" thing though... so I don't see this happening either. Altough I guess if they set the conversion rate high enough it would probably be an acceptable compromise.
I'd settle down even for 45 merits > 1 JP honestly.

i want new, difficult content, not rehashed old content/equipment. fuck jp adjustments if itd take away dev team from any of that

I kinda agree with you, but it's not like adjusting JP/CP rates would require weeks (or days) of intense development.

[Warusha]

I absolutely don't think CP should come from Voidwatch. Pretty much every fight but PW is and many were soloable since inception basically. I really enjoyed the double CP campaign, I got 30/40 on the job I enjoy most after 2 days of the content, then I basically didn't give a shit about the other jobs because the effort required is too high. I don't see a need for a lot of the adjustments because I don't really care about those other jobs. I like having something that further sets me apart that others can't easily perceive. I wouldn't be opposed to more CP/kill, but the current system isn't flawed IMO. I welcome an extension of the program, marginal updates, and more reasons to just play my main job and have a small sense of accomplishment.

If merit point categories were unlimited, but the cost to upgrade was exponential, would people complain?

[Sechs]

I absolutely don't think CP should come from Voidwatch. Pretty much every fight but PW is and many were soloable since inception basically.

I understand your request (no CP from VW), but I'm not sure I get your reason. Because "vw is soloable"?
Why, isn't CP soloable as well? Matsui always talked about CP/JP as a "content for the solo players", if you recall.
I mean, I kinda agree giving CP from VW (even small amounts) would be off for several small reasons, but the one you mentioned looks a bit bizarre to me.

I welcome an extension of the program, marginal updates, and more reasons to just play my main job and have a small sense of accomplishment.

I think this is exactely what people are asking, well, smart people at least. Small tweaks to make the system more enjoyable without destroying its nature, the goal it was created with.
I don't consider reasonable requests which imply changes which are either too big or simply go against what the system was meant for.

If merit point categories were unlimited, but the cost to upgrade was exponential, would people complain?

Not getting this.
You mean if there was no cap, but the cost goes so high it becomes realistically impossible?
Like getting 100 STR points but the 100th one costing something like over9000 merit points?
I'm sure there would be quite a lot of complaints, because of many valid reasons. Merit System clearly wasn't meant that way, it wouldn't work for way too many merit categories and honestly I find such unreasonable carrots-on-a-stick pretty pointless but that's just me I guess.
Not sure what you were trying to say with this example.

[Damane]

I understand your request (no CP from VW), but I'm not sure I get your reason. Because "vw is soloable"?
Why, isn't CP soloable as well? Matsui always talked about CP/JP as a "content for the solo players", if you recall.
I mean, I kinda agree giving CP from VW (even small amounts) would be off for several small reasons, but the one you mentioned looks a bit bizarre to me.


I think this is exactely what people are asking, well, smart people at least. Small tweaks to make the system more enjoyable without destroying its nature, the goal it was created with.
I don't consider reasonable requests which imply changes which are either too big or simply go against what the system was meant for.



Not getting this.
You mean if there was no cap, but the cost goes so high it becomes realistically impossible?
Like getting 100 STR points but the 100th one costing something like over9000 merit points?
I'm sure there would be quite a lot of complaints, because of many valid reasons. Merit System clearly wasn't meant that way, it wouldn't work for way too many merit categories and honestly I find such unreasonable carrots-on-a-stick pretty pointless but that's just me I guess.
Not sure what you were trying to say with this example.

he never stated CP/JP is meant for solo players he said that CP/JP are longtime terms for every player that they can achieve at some point each individually depending on their playstyle.